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Are You A Pc Or A Mac?
#3
Posted 22 August 2010 - 11:19 PM
PC because I know enough to know about hardware specs and what is a good deal. Thing is, for the most part, Macs are static. Hard to impossible to upgrade parts individually with any ease at all, much less keeping warranty. Some Macs sell for $2k with hardware you can put together yourself for almost half that, so that extra grand or so is software, and I'll bet if I had a grand to spend on software I could buy the best of the best that would compare to Mac software for videos and image manipulation with enough money to purchase games.
However, not all PCs are created equal. A PC you buy the parts yourself and put together yourself >>>>>>>>> any pre-packaged Mac or PC (Dell, HP, etc). However, most PCs from other companies have parts that can be upgraded, though warranties may be voided simply by opening your tower.
Macs are mostly about image of being Hip and Now, even though to many people who have PCs if you try to pose such an image simply due to owning a Mac you'll come off as a lemming douche. To me, brand name and unique software are not worth the extra money it'd take to buy a Mac that could do the same things hardware wise.
However, not all PCs are created equal. A PC you buy the parts yourself and put together yourself >>>>>>>>> any pre-packaged Mac or PC (Dell, HP, etc). However, most PCs from other companies have parts that can be upgraded, though warranties may be voided simply by opening your tower.
Macs are mostly about image of being Hip and Now, even though to many people who have PCs if you try to pose such an image simply due to owning a Mac you'll come off as a lemming douche. To me, brand name and unique software are not worth the extra money it'd take to buy a Mac that could do the same things hardware wise.
#4
Posted 22 August 2010 - 11:38 PM
PC... i can build pcs for 300-400 that have the same real world performance as a $1500 mac. Slickdeals.net is a wonderful resource for us. I got 4 1gb sticks of ram for 3 bucks each after rebate (sometimes you get lucky).
Also, there is an AMD dualcore that can be unlocked to a quadcore with certain motherboards
Also, there is an AMD dualcore that can be unlocked to a quadcore with certain motherboards
This post has been edited by sprucemoose3311: 22 August 2010 - 11:41 PM
#5
Posted 22 August 2010 - 11:38 PM
Psh, PC all the way! Macs are over-priced and do almost the same things a PC can..... (plus a PC can right-click)
#6
Posted 23 August 2010 - 12:56 AM
PC! My head would probly explode if the right click wasn't invented...
This post has been edited by ellisdiaz: 23 August 2010 - 12:58 AM
#8
Posted 23 August 2010 - 02:18 AM
#11
Posted 23 August 2010 - 09:58 AM
I like full control of my system without having to resort to esoteric console commands to configure simple things. I also don't believe in paying a premium for out-dated hardware in a fancy case. Therefore I tend toward PCs.
That being said, you can pretty much do whatever in either system except games AND that is actually changing. With Valve on OsX now and a number of Mac customers complaining of performance, Apple is finally deciding to update their video drivers to actually use the 3D hardware people have been paying for.
That being said, you can pretty much do whatever in either system except games AND that is actually changing. With Valve on OsX now and a number of Mac customers complaining of performance, Apple is finally deciding to update their video drivers to actually use the 3D hardware people have been paying for.
#12
Posted 23 August 2010 - 10:28 AM
I find Macs to be quality computers, but I despise fan boys who think their over priced gadgets to be so much more superior than PCs.
That being said, I love my PC and feel comfortable enough using one that I don't need a fancy, dumbed down computer.
PCs all the way! But still.. I think iPads are kind of cool and may pick one up in the future when they cost about $200.
Oh and most importantly... I am a PC gamer, and everyone knows PCs are much better for gaming, also considering why most companies don't even both making a Mac version of a game.
That being said, I love my PC and feel comfortable enough using one that I don't need a fancy, dumbed down computer.
PCs all the way! But still.. I think iPads are kind of cool and may pick one up in the future when they cost about $200.
Oh and most importantly... I am a PC gamer, and everyone knows PCs are much better for gaming, also considering why most companies don't even both making a Mac version of a game.
This post has been edited by SakeBombshell: 23 August 2010 - 10:30 AM
#13
Posted 23 August 2010 - 10:48 AM
sprucemoose3311, on 22 August 2010 - 11:38 PM, said:
PC... i can build pcs for 300-400 that have the same real world performance as a $1500 mac. Slickdeals.net is a wonderful resource for us. I got 4 1gb sticks of ram for 3 bucks each after rebate (sometimes you get lucky).
Also, there is an AMD dualcore that can be unlocked to a quadcore with certain motherboards
Also, there is an AMD dualcore that can be unlocked to a quadcore with certain motherboards
to be fair, you cannot compare the price of a mac to a self built PC unless you include the cost of your time to research, buy, assemble, get the right drivers, get pissed because your video card has a strange incompatibility with your motherboard south-bridge chipset and have to order a different card, etc etc.
Comparing Mac to Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc is more appropriate.
Even in these cases though, Macs tend to cost a bit more though the price premium tends to be in the range of $100-$400 depending on the market at the time.
My biggest problem tends to be with the pricing in general, even when comparing 2 comparable systems (say a Mac against a Dell) you'll find the Dell will have more options than the Mac and will tend to have the latest hardware available while Apple likes to sit on the same video card and chipset for a while before moving to the latest hardware (this make's OSX easier to develop).
Also I fear Jobs is headed in the same direction people beat Gates up for over 10 years ago. If Apple keeps heading in the direction it is in, don't be surprised if you see more of this "you don't own your device, Apple does" in thier products.
#14
Posted 23 August 2010 - 10:48 AM
i have had both actually and i will never ever use a pc again! IM a MAC user through and through
#15
Posted 23 August 2010 - 11:30 AM
Manitcor, on 23 August 2010 - 09:58 AM, said:
That being said, you can pretty much do whatever in either system except games AND that is actually changing. With Valve on OsX now and a number of Mac customers complaining of performance, Apple is finally deciding to update their video drivers to actually use the 3D hardware people have been paying for.
That and new Macs come with the ability to install Windows...
#16
Posted 23 August 2010 - 01:31 PM
i used to build pc's with my dad in high school (a good 10 years ago) and ever since senior year (2002) i've been a mac, got my first ibook g3 and fell in love. back then there was a difference though, its all the same nowadays, whoever said they both suck, that was dead on. computers are evil but macs are easy to look at.
though, the calibration a mac monitor out of the box is astounding, as a photographer, thats very helpful. =)
though, the calibration a mac monitor out of the box is astounding, as a photographer, thats very helpful. =)
#17
Posted 23 August 2010 - 05:17 PM
#18
Posted 23 August 2010 - 08:17 PM
Mac is over rated so I'm a pc for a couple more reasons, 1 macs arent compatible with half the stuff pc is, 2 mac is over priced when u can buy a really nice pc for way cheaper
#19
Posted 23 August 2010 - 10:51 PM
I use Macs but I would not mind having a PC. There's a lot of software I could use that is not offered for Mac OS.
Also would love to build a PC but I'm not exactly in the best situation for building one b/c I'd rather have a high end rig than budget (school & bills drain my income!).
75% of Mac users use a PC at least once a week. Between one class that meets three times a week and uses computers only and my job, which uses computers, four to five days a week...I definitely fall into that category. I like both Windows and Mac OS (open to LInux as well but have never used it other than on a netbook -- EEE PC). Mac is susceptible to viruses easily, it's just no one bothers making viruses for Mac OS. What's the point? Almost all major businesses use Windows OS for work. And I'd rather have a Windows PC or laptop than run Parallels, BC or VM Fusion.
Concerning the huge price difference, yeah, half the cost of a Mac is software based. -__-
Also would love to build a PC but I'm not exactly in the best situation for building one b/c I'd rather have a high end rig than budget (school & bills drain my income!).
75% of Mac users use a PC at least once a week. Between one class that meets three times a week and uses computers only and my job, which uses computers, four to five days a week...I definitely fall into that category. I like both Windows and Mac OS (open to LInux as well but have never used it other than on a netbook -- EEE PC). Mac is susceptible to viruses easily, it's just no one bothers making viruses for Mac OS. What's the point? Almost all major businesses use Windows OS for work. And I'd rather have a Windows PC or laptop than run Parallels, BC or VM Fusion.
Concerning the huge price difference, yeah, half the cost of a Mac is software based. -__-
This post has been edited by Haowuliao: 23 August 2010 - 10:52 PM
#20
Posted 24 August 2010 - 12:13 AM
Many places have a list of parts you'd need to order off newegg or other sites to make a gaming rig for around a grand.
You do not need any of the top-of-the-line $800 video card. Soon enough it'll drop to a few hundred in a few years and no game atm would come close to using all of its resources, nor any game within the next 3-5 years. Ram and cpu power are increasing like crazy as well. It's not as expensive as you'd think.
You do not need any of the top-of-the-line $800 video card. Soon enough it'll drop to a few hundred in a few years and no game atm would come close to using all of its resources, nor any game within the next 3-5 years. Ram and cpu power are increasing like crazy as well. It's not as expensive as you'd think.
#21
Posted 24 August 2010 - 06:33 AM
I don't know crap about computers, I just know I like the way PCs format looks since I'm used to it. Also I REALLY like right clicking
#22
Posted 24 August 2010 - 07:46 AM
mattblack04, on 24 August 2010 - 12:13 AM, said:
Many places have a list of parts you'd need to order off newegg or other sites to make a gaming rig for around a grand.
You do not need any of the top-of-the-line $800 video card. Soon enough it'll drop to a few hundred in a few years and no game atm would come close to using all of its resources, nor any game within the next 3-5 years. Ram and cpu power are increasing like crazy as well. It's not as expensive as you'd think.
You do not need any of the top-of-the-line $800 video card. Soon enough it'll drop to a few hundred in a few years and no game atm would come close to using all of its resources, nor any game within the next 3-5 years. Ram and cpu power are increasing like crazy as well. It's not as expensive as you'd think.
This is very true, building can be extremely cost effective if you know what you are doing. You can build a system for roughly 1/2-2/3rds the price of a similarly speced OEM and likely get better parts.
I built a server in my basement that commercially would have cost well over $5000, as you can guess, I never came close to that in my cost to build.
The thing was a monster though and took a good month of afternoons to put together.
#24
Posted 24 August 2010 - 03:43 PM
mattblack04, on 24 August 2010 - 12:13 AM, said:
Many places have a list of parts you'd need to order off newegg or other sites to make a gaming rig for around a grand.
You do not need any of the top-of-the-line $800 video card. Soon enough it'll drop to a few hundred in a few years and no game atm would come close to using all of its resources, nor any game within the next 3-5 years. Ram and cpu power are increasing like crazy as well. It's not as expensive as you'd think.
You do not need any of the top-of-the-line $800 video card. Soon enough it'll drop to a few hundred in a few years and no game atm would come close to using all of its resources, nor any game within the next 3-5 years. Ram and cpu power are increasing like crazy as well. It's not as expensive as you'd think.
You are absolutely correct about everything stated. I've seen some "recommended builds" where the video card was pretty much the cost of all the other parts. -__-
But yeah, I'm not a PC gamer anymore (haven't been for many years) and I really don't need a PC at the moment but if I did for some reason(s), I would definitely build one.
Speaking of building PCs being far more cost effective than an OEM, Staples has an Acer desktop w/ an AMD Athlon II X2 Dual-Core 215 processor (2.70GHz), 4 GB RAM, 12 USB ports, HDMI port, etc. for $299 this week. This is one of the fewer occasions where a PC is cheaper to buy than to build. Not a powerhouse by any means but for basic office apps and web surfing, it gets the job done. Bought one for the mother as a replacement desktop that is four or five years old.
This post has been edited by Haowuliao: 24 August 2010 - 03:47 PM
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