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#1 ɹɐƃƎ‾ʇɹol˥

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 05:04 PM

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This is a simple guide, displaying several combat tactics and glitches


General
Using secondary button layout C is highly recommended.
Mapcancelling is opening your map and then closing it again as fast as possible.
When you magically can't attack anymore, open and closing your map might be a fix. (else, suicide (L3+R3), else leave the game and join again)
'Class switching' is pressing triangle (default primary layout)


Worker
- Charging a bomb-throw longer will not add damage, only range.
- Trees don't need two full chops, just one full and a quarter charged chop.
Best DPS (damage per second):
Doublebombing: charge your axe attack, switch to bomb and throw, then switch to axe and charge again. Mapcancelling may help when you get stuck in the doublebombing cycle.


Mage
- Buttonmash the attack button to break out of ice faster (works with all classes).
- Fire AoE frees frozen teammates and enemies, ice AoE extinguishes teammates and enemies who are on fire.
- After having released a charge, switch class to cancel out the time to wait before charging again.
Best DPS:
Use mapcancelling: Right after you have fired your charge, mapcancel to cancel out the time to charge again. This is slighty faster than switching classes.


Ranger
- Jumping, hiding behind objects and suddenly changing your movement direction help avoiding arrows. (works with all classes)
- Jumping and firing your arrow in mid-air may increase accuracy.
- Use the shotgun (It's a shotgun. End of discussion.) for close range, arrows for long range (arrows still have a nice change to hit if your target is outside your target range)
- After having shot an arrow, you can switch class to cancel out the waiting time to charge again.
- Don't doubleshoot for a +12 happiness and respect boost.
Best DPS:
Use quickcharging: Charge an arrow, fire the arrow THEN switch to shotgun, start charging again, switch to your bow&arrow. (When you switch to shotgun before firing, you are doubleshooting, this is a game breaking glitch, don't use it.)


Priest
- Charge the AoE (area of effect, the group healing/cursing attack), both for healing and cursing, as light priest, switch class just before attacking if you want to curse the enemy. (The light priest runs much faster than the dark priest when charging the AoE)
- When enemies are frozen, firing a dark AoE at them will cause them to break out.
- If there are teammates around, don't be dark priest only. Keeping teammates alive is the priest's main task.
- When escorting it's mostly a good idea to let another class carry the princess. Keep distance of the princess carrier when he/she is under attack to stay alive, heal the carrier and you will both have a better change of staying alive.
Best DPS:
The priest isn't an DPS class, but for being most effective: Use mapcancelling: When you have fired any attack/heal, mapcancel to cancel the waiting time before charging again. (Very useful for quick light priest AoE to line healing)


Warrior
- Mapcancel after having fired the dash (halberd charge) attack to cancel the delay for charging again. This way you can dash very fast, you can also take a quick peek at the map every time you dash.
- Strafe (L2 with secondary button layout C) for another way to put your shield up, useful for protecting teammates behind you.
Best DPS:
Attack with your halberd charge attack, then, when your halberd is at it's highest point or when all possible damage is dealt, mapcancel and repeat the process.


Pirate & Ninja
- The pirate's movement is slighty faster than the ninja's
- Firing a full charge from close range does significantly more damage than from long range.
- Stealthgrabbing: As ninja, grab an object right when activating stealth mode to carry an object while being invisible. (Flying cake may still be caused by ghosts, however)
Best DPS:
Use mapcancelling: mapcancel just when you've fired, both firing an as least as possible charged shot as an average charged shot work great. Smallest charge recommended for ninja (when attacking continuously), average charge for Pirate at shorter range, at larger range use the smallest charge for highest DPS.


Giant
- Having a good connection greatly improves damage caused
- Giantgrabbing: To grab things as giant, grab a purple hat (giant, pirate, ninja), switch class until you are pirate, then, when standing in front of object to pick up, press circle and triangle almost simultaniously. (Giantgrabbing the princess isn't always tolerated, I don't recommend to do that).
Best DPS:
Use mapcancelling: Mapcancel just before your charged attack ends for cancelling delay.


Chicken
- One could commit suicide to become featherless again faster. (not recommended)


Reaper
- Mapcancelling works, it's useless though.
- Commit suicide to drop 3 gayballs, When another player consumes this gayball, he/she will become a reaper (too).


SUPER Chicken
- commit suicide to drop one gayball.
- WOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOO IMA HUGANTIC CHICKEN WOOOOOOOOOOOO


Don't listen to any of these tips. None of them work.

Just tell when you want to add/improve something.

Edited by Rage_Troll, 11 July 2012 - 05:52 AM.

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#2 Intimi_Gator

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 06:01 PM

Dont' listen to any of these tips. None of them work Posted Image
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 06:28 PM

Gayballs? lol
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 09:09 PM

Buttonmash the attack button to break out of ice faster (works with all classes).


Seriously? ._. I always thought I just had the worst luck of everyone, since I'm always the last one frozen! D: I practically raged in every game when I was frozen for a million years! ):

I thought this was going to be a troll post. Doin' good, Rage, doin' good c:
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 11:37 PM

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 08:19 PM

Teeny tiny note/elaboration for ninjas is that each star does fixed damage so range isn't a factor for single star throws. Quickly firing 1 off at close range has the same damage as if it hit far away and it's easy to do.

Great writeup.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 09:43 PM

It's kind of silly to write pirate tactics without addressing the cannon ball, no? I mean, you can use the pistol to kill people, sure, but it's decidedly inferior to the ranger's options.

The biggest trick to using the cannon ball, I've found, is to aim behind the enemies you want to hit. This is for a few reasons. First, your own warriors are likely to be quite close to the enemy, and ideally you want to minimize friendly fire. Especially if the other team decides to fall back, you can wind up killing your own charging teammates while the others make a clean escape. I've done this more often then I'd like to admit, and I am deeply sorry to everyone who has been on the receiving end of my team killing incompetence.


The other great thing about aiming behind the enemy is that the bomb blast throws them forward toward you. And the pistol does more damage up close. Releasing the bomb gives you just enough time to charge the pistol and score a point blank kill shot on one of the survivors. With a little luck, you can get one or two more before they run out of range.

Also, priests tend to hang out near the back, and a direct or near direct hit will kill them outright at the same time it softens up the guys they were healing for the rest of your team.
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 03:30 AM

Really nice writeup :) one thing I'd like to add about the pirate pistol, is that at a certain range, average charge becomes less useful than no charge due to the increased spread. If you're at a distance, the accuracy and damage of firing rapid single bullets outclass average charge unless you're lucky with the spread. Also, the Ninja seems to have less shuriken spread when jumping.

It's kind of silly to write pirate tactics without addressing the cannon ball, no? I mean, you can use the pistol to kill people, sure, but it's decidedly inferior to the ranger's options.


Well, this was more of a writeup of glitches and tricks than tactics and usage of said tricks, so that's probably why. There is one trick like that with the bomb, though. You can actually cancel the bombing by map cancelling the animation. Not that useful, and I pretty much only do it on accident ... Your tip is still nice, though.
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 05:48 AM

Dont' listen to any of these tips. None of them work Posted Image



Thanks, I forgot that one indeed, I'll add it right away.

It's kind of silly to write pirate tactics without addressing the cannon ball, no? I mean, you can use the pistol to kill people, sure, but it's decidedly inferior to the ranger's options.


As Luffy said. Where to place a bomb really depends on the situation also. It's a great tip but I don't feel like it belongs here.

Really nice writeup :) one thing I'd like to add about the pirate pistol, is that at a certain range, average charge becomes less useful than no charge due to the increased spread. If you're at a distance, the accuracy and damage of firing rapid single bullets outclass average charge unless you're lucky with the spread. Also, the Ninja seems to have less shuriken spread when jumping.

There is one trick like that with the bomb, though. You can actually cancel the bombing by map cancelling the animation. Not that useful, and I pretty much only do it on accident ... Your tip is still nice, though.


Thanks! You're right Luffy, I'll add it, though the pirate doesn't do the best DPS he could from long range.
I rather don't add the bomb trick, people should fire those bombs with a short single tap at all times. It also works with picking up items btw Posted Image

Edited by Rage_Troll, 11 July 2012 - 05:49 AM.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 07:45 AM

Buttonmash the attack button to break out of ice faster (works with all classes).


Seriously? ._. I always thought I just had the worst luck of everyone, since I'm always the last one frozen! D: I practically raged in every game when I was frozen for a million years! ):


It's a lie nomz... don't press the attack button repeatedly to break ouf of ice faster, just stay frozen longer so i can eat you easier with my giant :D
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 10:24 AM

So both Rage and I did some testing, and it seems like I was wrong about jumping affecting shuriken spread. I still recommend it though, as it seems to make hitting easier somehow, whether that is due to helping increase the range (shuriken often land in the ground before you) or something else.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 02:51 PM

True, the cannon ball isn't a glitch, but the topic header implies a discussion of tactics as well, and not all of the OP examples are glitches either. Mashing attack to break out of the ice, for example. I just think there isn't much point to discussing "Best DPS" for the pirate without factoring in the cannon. He doesn't have the up close power of a warrior, and his ranged attacks are far inferior to the ranger. His entire offensive game revolves around that special ability, and without it he's just a sub par DPS.

Edited by blacwulf13, 12 July 2012 - 02:51 PM.

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 03:49 PM

When it comes to being frozen as a giant, I always press R1 and the square button repeatedly. That's how I'm almost always the first one to unfreeze from a team while surprising some mages who assume I'm gonna be their next ice sculpture. xP
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 04:26 PM

When it comes to being frozen as a giant, I always press R1 and the square button repeatedly. That's how I'm almost always the first one to unfreeze from a team while surprising some mages who assume I'm gonna be their next ice sculpture. xP


Me too. That's the trick :)
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 06:33 PM

True, the cannon ball isn't a glitch, but the topic header implies a discussion of tactics as well, and not all of the OP examples are glitches either. Mashing attack to break out of the ice, for example. I just think there isn't much point to discussing "Best DPS" for the pirate without factoring in the cannon. He doesn't have the up close power of a warrior, and his ranged attacks are far inferior to the ranger. His entire offensive game revolves around that special ability, and without it he's just a sub par DPS.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but you want me add to the OP to use the cannonball!? Using the cannonball is no tactic, no glitch, no tip and no trick, it's an ability of pirates. I didn't add that rangers can shoot arrows and that warriors can use their shields either.
This guide has nothing to do with comparing classes and their DPS's.

Edited by Rage_Troll, 12 July 2012 - 06:33 PM.

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 07:45 PM

Way awesome Rage. I didn't know about partial charges with map cancels being better for the DLC classes. It's mostly useless, but I feel the need to add something. Strafe AND lock on as a Ranger for magical backwards shooting time! Actually maybe it is a bit useful. When you're Cursed, strafing will stop your drunk-wobble from messing with your facing. You'll auto lock on whatever's closest in front of you, so ranged classes can still be kinda useful while Cursed. Peg that exposed Priest before they hide again!
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 10:13 PM

Okay, there's a vast gulf between simply saying "Use this ability!" and explaining how to use that ability to maximum impact, which is what your post was about.

It's like saying


- Jumping and firing your arrow in mid-air may increase accuracy.
- Use the shotgun (It's a shotgun. End of discussion.) for close range, arrows for long range (arrows still have a nice change to hit if your target is outside your target range)
- After having shot an arrow, you can switch class to cancel out the waiting time to charge again.



is just "Shoot arrows to deal damage!"


It isn't. There's a specific way to shoot arrows to get the best use from them, which you so nicely lay out for us. But by the same token, there's more to the cannon than just "Use it on the enemy" Aiming it in such a way that the knockback sets the enemy up for a point blank pistol finisher is both a tactic and tip.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 10:19 PM

I use the cannon to push back people. It's like using the Ice Mage's freeze. Not so much to damage people but for some battlefield control.
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 05:28 AM

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Okay, there's a vast gulf between simply saying "Use this ability!" and explaining how to use that ability to maximum impact, which is what your post was about.


I got from your post that you wanted me to add "use the cannonball" under the best dps section. I rather don't add special attacks to the best DPS section, it was more about class switching and mapcancelling and everyone knows that you can use a special already.
You also wanted to add to fire the cannonball behind the enemy at the 'tips' section.Where to place the cannonball is very situation dependant, and 'fire the cannonball behind the enemy' applies far from 'at all times'. When you're fleeing from an enemy it's sometimes a good idea to place the cannonball in front of you, so that the cannonball hits the chasing enemy while you have runned further already. Adding 'place a cannonball behind the enemy team if they hang around at the same place continuously to pull them towards you and to have a greater change of killing their priests' is a bit too specific IMO.
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 11:00 AM

Fair enough. I guess the best all purpose advice boils down to "Aim at where the enemy is going to be in five seconds, not where they are now" but that's hard to act on.

I do love the "pirate's retreat". Can't believe I forgot to bring it up.
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Posted 23 July 2012 - 09:34 PM

wooooooooooooooooooooooooow wrong topic

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:45 AM

I enjoy being the giant chicken far more than being the reaper :o
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 07:56 PM

Good job rage :D and i have the same problem as nom nom until a week ago, when you tell me ._. y u no tell me earlier D: xD


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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:58 PM

Good job rage :D and i have the same problem as nom nom until a week ago, when you tell me ._. y u no tell me earlier D: xD


Thx, I like to see people raging untill ice melts :D
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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:20 PM

yes, then you gave me intention to pwn the ice mage badly :rage:


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